[Project] Sync Generator modification

I haven’t done more tests with the mods, but as stated in my previous post, main issue is the logic being powered by +5V on Cadet Sync Gen and the 27MHz VCXO being +3.3V only. So maybe using a logic level converter to go from +5V at the output of the PLL to +3.3V to feed the lag/lead filter just before the VC input of the VCXO could work, there will surely be a bit of propagation delay, though might be negligible enough.

Else, most logic chips have a Vcc/2 input threshold (here 2.5V) , so in most cases, a +5V powered logic chip can accept a +3.3V signal at its input fine. The only critical part here is the VCXO VC, that needs to be +3.3V, since it expects a linearly changing signal, so it requires to be in the right range for the genlock feature to work as it should.

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All - I just found this. A little dated, but it has a schematic for a PLL and VCXO that might be useful. And it runs at +5V !!! Are you guys aware?

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As was mentioned previously, it would be cool if the HC4046 oscillator could be used directly, without the need for a crystal at all. But as someone noted, the stability might be an issue. Anyone tried it yet?

Is anyone still thinking about taking this further? I have only 1 cadet sync generator but 2 RGB encoders. The plan always had been to have a second sync generator but they sold out before I got around to it

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i’m also pinging this to find out if this was ever resolved – i am building a small system, and i would really need two CI’s to get it to work… seems the situation is somewhat hopeless at the moment

edit.; alternatively, are there any modules that could replace 2 Cadet I’s? i would appreciate all input

edit 2: or, perhaps, someone here has the specs of the VCXO in question? i can find some 13.5 mhz ones available… maybe there is some replacement option on the market still?

I don’t have an answer to your questions, but why do you need two C1s (especially for a small system)? Typically you only need one sync generator, and then you distribute that sync from there.

oh, you’re right, i needed to build two because we were thinking of assembling similar systems with a friend. for one system, yes, i intended to use just the one

Cool. Just making sure you weren’t thinking you could use them for something you can’t. :slight_smile:

(BTW, if you don’t get an answer here, you can try on the lzx discord. It seems to be more active than this forum these days. Which is too bad because I prefer forums over discords.)

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I just completed a Cadet Sync Generator this past month. It was tricky, but it works well. Here’s some preliminary documentation that might help. It’s still a work in progress. Hope it helps :slightly_smiling_face:

Cadet I Sync Generator Documentation

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