Here are what will be the rear assemblies for all Gen3 modules. The white area will get a product specific label. Kudos to @brownshoesonly and the workshop team for the photos.
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what are the 4 different outs on ART for? I see what looks like a H ramp and V ramp but then it looks like two diagonal ramps? Is there something that utilizes all four outputs at once? Or is it just about having a variation on the output?
perhaps a second memory palace isn’t that crazy…
Vector monitors are tempting maybe I should do some reading and at least get an idea of what that cost would look like. I’ve got a camera I really like for rescanning already so maybe vector rescanning isn’t that far off!
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They are 1:1 (45 degree rotated) mixes of H and V. So more in the vein of having useful variations.
Sure! I suppose part of it is a move toward treating each element in that upper 3X3 grid as a very hands on, live element. So there’s a move away from using switches for “settings” – which is part of what I’d consider an AC/DC modulation switch.) Instead I’m trying to put settings into the patch itself.
So it would be more likely that we see more bipolar +/-1V outputs or AC coupled inputs on Gen3 modules, rather than AC/DC coupling switches.
And there are VCF modules coming – that’s what you’d want for deeper control over integration constants anyway.
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hey @creatorlars I’m wondering if you could touch briefly on the model for sales with these modules? Will these be preorders or for sale when completed?
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We haven’t arrived at a decision there yet. We’re going to see how production on the first couple modules go this week and next week – and we are juggling with Chromagnon tasks, which have priority over the modules. But there will likely be some news soon.
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Will you make more vessels ? I just got one and would love to get another ! Best case
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Everytime a new generation of LZX modules is released, I realize a need a refresher course in trig and geometry!
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We are planning new 208HP and 52HP case designs for sure, but won’t be starting those projects until next year. So Vessel will be coming back with some updates.
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Hi! I am really excited about the new modules.
I am completely new to all of this, I ordered Chromagnon last year and bought some modules that I haven’t used yet, since I am waiting for Chromagnon.
I have Bridge, Passage, Curtain, Sensory, Prismatic Ray, BSO Scanner and Syntonie CVB001
Regarding to be able to use full HD resolution I have few basic questions. Sorry for the basic question, but I am struggling to understand… having never used the modules it is difficult for me to follow and understand this post and everything in general.
1 “ In NTSC/PAL modes, composite video outputs will be active ”.
It means if I stay in these modes I can not use component output from Chromagnon?
2 “ Most Expedition modules will work fine in either system – anything without sync IO on the rear is going to be compatible without a thought.”
From my list of modules, the only one that needs synch is Prismatic , correct?
3 Can I use prismatic and all the other modules with Chromagnon using “standard” resolution?
4 Patching between chroma and prismatic ray at full HD resolution, will be still possible, how?
Like using Chromagnon ramps output and mix or modulated them with prismatic ray and then going back to Chromagnon input in order to output the final results in full HD? I do not know if the example make sense 
5 You suggested the DWO as a great addiction to Chroma… I remember reading time ago you also suggested a quadrature lfo. Will DWO work as lfo and as a quadruture lfo too?
I am thinking that if it is going to be too much headache making prismatic work with Chroma I will sell it and buy the new DWO.
Sorry again for so many questoins! Could you please reply in very simple terms…as if you are talking to a child Lol? Thanks so much
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You can still use component at NTSC (or PAL) resolution.
Correct. Does your Prismatic Ray have an RCA sync connection on the back?
Yes.
You can sync Prismatic Ray using Chromagnon’s RCA sync output and then patch Ray’s outputs into any of Chromagnon’s inputs (or mix Ray’s outputs with Chromagnon’s outputs, as in your example).
Here is the suggested quadrature implementation using Gen3 Modules:
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Is it possible to fill a 104HP row with Gen3 modules only? If not would you guys consider making an 8hp Gen3 module so that Vessel owners can fill their case with HD modules only?
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There will be 8HP modules to help fill 104HP.
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Yes, we have both 8HP and 12HP form factors planned. None of the 8HP modules are in this group – this first set are all in the “bigger functions” category. Anything that is a generator (ramps or oscillators or sync), or that has control switches, needs to be 12HP or larger due to the need for video sync connection. This is a self imposed constraint, to keep all designs performing consistently in every case where sync is involved.
So 8HP modules will be similar to modules in the past like Arch, Bridge, Passage, etc. that provide direct access to raw functions. Utility panels.
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8hp sensory translator or riot
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Just wrapping my head around this now.
So what you are saying is that the outputs I have labeled in yellow below are all 0-1v — as typical for past LZX modules — but then the pink ones are bipolar, +/-1v, right?
If that is the case, I think the labeling is pretty good, actually. If anything, maybe just its placement in the middle of all the others is a bit confusing? Perhaps the bipolar one could be up top, next to the sync input, so the 4 0-1v outputs all sit together? Like so…
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Here is how I changed the waveform output icons. The Sin/Cos are both bipolar/quadrature +/-1V out. Similar to the U/V outputs on Mapper.
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Oh wow, that gets me excited - dual quadrature osc with resettable sync, stepping up possibilities in video-rate vector synthesis 
Would having the DWO running without sync on the rear be possible, and just rely on front panel input for syncing? I can imagine some patching with castles or comparators or whatever…
edit: should I say… DWOW!
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There are free running modes in the range knobs (H and V vs HS and VS), so you can leave sync connected in the rear and still reset externally.
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I don’t have anything to add to this thread other than to say that I am hugely excited about all of this and loving the forum activity!
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